April 28, 2011 Special Meeting Summary

MARION CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING


City Hall – Council Chambers on April 28, 2011, 7:00 PM

ROLL CALL – 7 members answered – Mr. Ratliff, Mr. Thomas, Mrs. Blevins, Mrs. Masters, Mrs. Gustin, Mr. Hines, and Mr. Edwards.

PRAYER LED BY PASTOR DOUG FORD

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

Mr. Ratliff moved to excuse Mr. Cumston and Dr. Gilsdorf, Mrs. Blevins seconding, by a voice vote all members excused the two councilpersons.

Old Business:


ORDINANCE 2011-36
ORDINANCE RATIFYING, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARION AND THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, OHIO LABOR COUNCIL, INC., FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS (COCO) BARGAINING UNIT, INCORPORATING NEGOTIATED CONCESSIONS AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY
Mrs. Blevins – 2-0 recommendation to send onto Council. We are going to request a second reading this evening. ORDINANCE 2011-36 HAS HAD ITS’ SECOND READING

ORDINANCE 2011-37
ORDINANCE RATIFYING, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARION AND THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, OHIO LABOR COUNCIL, INC., FOR THE BLUE BARGAINING UNIT, INCORPORATING NEGOTIATED CONCESSIONS AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
Mrs. Blevins – 2-0 recommendation to send onto Council. We are going to request a second reading this evening.
Mr. Ratliff said there are some differences in numbers from Tuesday numbers – a 7,000.00 difference. Auditor Carr said the difference cost was the health care changes and ERIP, quartermaster reimbursements. Mr. Ratliff asked what the number was that they had to hit. Mayor Schertzer said does not reflect the 2% shift that will taking place. The very first number was 395,000.00. Mr. Ratliff asked what they have to meet now. Auditor Carr said 340,000.00. Mr. Ratliff said it looks like we are still 50,000 short. Auditor Carr said back in Feb. we needed 411,000. This is all estimated, income tax just finishing. We need to sit down and review and what revisions have been made and any potential changes for the next budget meeting in April. Mr. Ratliff said we are not very close at all. Mrs. Carr said there is not one out there. Mr. Ratliff said we are working on educated basis; you’ll have to come up with a plan and try to pave the road with that plan. Auditor Carr said the 411 was city wide. Mr. Ratliff said you are comfortable with the 395. Mrs. Carr said she is working on evaluating that. We are going to get what we need to get. Is it the 340, no, they gave us 288 – they believe that’s not a possibility. Mrs. Gustin asked about the income tax. Mrs. Carr said she hasn’t gotten the final numbers on them yet.
Officer Troutman, Blue unit – This package presented to you is comparable to the Firefighters. If you decline to take this offer, the result will be a lot more lay-offs. What we gave you usually takes months for us to do. This is what we are offering you. I hope you’ll accept that. Mr. Ratliff said as part of your package, you’re offering lay-off’s. Officer Troutman said we are not offering lay-offs, that is administration. Mr. Ratliff said I’d like to look elsewhere for the money. We accepted Grant money a couple of years ago; is that expired? Chief Bell said that was a Cop’s Grant last fall in 2010. What that was going to do is to keep us at 62 officers. 709,000 spread out over 3 years. It was our understanding we couldn’t lay anybody off. I have called, Tom Bell, the Auditor has called, and we are trying to find out what happens with that money. In the fine print of the grant it says you may have to pay it back. We haven’t touched that money. We don’t have anything in writing yet, we haven’t collected any of that money yet. Chief said the money would probably keep us where we are. We haven’t drawn down any money on it. ORDINANCE 2011-37 HAS HAD ITS’ SECOND READING
Mrs. Blevins asked if we are allowed to vote on this. Law Director Russell said it just takes a motion to suspend. Mrs. Blevins moved to suspend the rules for Ordinance 2011-37, Mr. Thomas seconding. Roll Call: YEAS: Mr. Thomas, Mrs. Blevins, Mrs. Masters; NAYS: Mr. Ratliff, Mr. Hines, Mrs. Gustin, Mr. Schaber. NOT SUSPENDED

ORDINANCE 2011-38
ORDINANCE RATIFYING, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MARION AND THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, OHIO LABOR COUNCIL, INC., FOR THE GOLD BARGAINING UNIT, INCORPORATING NEGOTIATED CONCESSIONS AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.
Mrs. Blevins – 2-0 recommendation to send onto Council. We are going to request a second reading this evening.
Mr. Ratliff said this is the first time ever that the gold and blue negotiated together. What were the benefits?
Officer Troutman said it usually doesn’t happen. They used to be together years ago. We threw everything out there, and this is what we have to do.
Mayor Schertzer said we usually give you the numbers – this is the reverse – it’s going to be a savings to the City. Do I want them to make concessions for save everybody’s job, absolutely! This has been ground breaking in that regard.
Mr. Ratliff asked how many blue and gold are there.
Officer Troutman said 59 blue and 15 gold.
By doing them together, gold is managerial, blue are officers on the street. When you negotiate together, the gold would always have seniority. Officer Troutman said yes. As you go as a team, the only people that can every be laid off, are the people on the street.
Officer Troutman said it’s not necessarily true.
Mike Radcliff, Gold unit supervisors – we were given a number, we went into as a team, we did it together.
Mark Drum, FOP Representative – combined units – they were told this is the number, and there will be layoffs. We don’t know where the layoffs will be. The longer you wait the more people you’ll lay off.
Mr. Ratliff asked who makes that decision on who is laid off. Mr. Drum said ORC and Civil Service, seniority and classification.
Mr. Ratliff said we are aware of the deadline we have, the layoff notices were given out, there is a certain amount of time for that. We are not delaying this process. As far as the firefighters – yes they are extremely comparable. If they didn’t have 3 people retiring, they would be in the same situation as you are in. I do not support lay-offs.
Mr. Drum said these numbers were guess numbers depending on the State. They could get better, or they could get worse. We are trying to work on a number that we don’t know.
Mr. Thomas said we understand time table. We already decided to call another special meeting Monday night. @ 7:10 pm. We already talked about that. I don’t want to see people laid off. We are also working on the public side and we need to balance the budget, we can’t run at a deficit. I commend all the unions for working on this.
Ralph Hill – spoke about working in the government sector.
Pastor Ford spoke about the people working together, they will do their best to protect our city. There is really no good answer for anything. I’m hoping and praying for wisdom that’s not on the table yet. Perception is willing to protect, high rise careers. It’s tough – do your best!
Tracy Cooprider, 717 Lilac Lane asked if all concessions were possibly made.
Mayor Schertzer said there is probably more to come. Give up their HSA going forward. 450,000 savings for the City. That’s ½ way were we want to be right now. The coco unit has agreed to do that. Asked to go to a 80/20 plan with no caps. Pension pickup – each different for every member. Pick up for everyone in the city – paying the normal 10/10 – that would be a savings. Everybody pays their fair share. Furlough time – 64 hours of furlough. 229,000 savings. Eliminate Sick leave sell back – 181,000.00 savings. That is unheard of in the private sector. I can’t go in and say this is gone for you, the Mayor does not have that authority.
Mr. Ed Christian spoke about giving up and sacrificing.
Mr. Thomas moved to have a special Council Meeting Monday, May 2, 2011 @ 7:10 PM – the discussion will be the 3 FOP contracts, Mrs. Blevins seconding. Roll Call: YEAS: Mr. Thomas, Mrs. Blevins, Mrs. Master, Mr. Hines, Mrs. Gustin, Mr. Schaber; NAYS: Mr. Ratliff.

Adjourn

With no further business to come before council, President Edwards adjourned the meeting.


______________________________ Dave Edwards President of Council

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Clerk of Council